Let me Make this clear and to the point.
Kate and gerry have told us Maddie is dead, we should believe them.
kate when she spoke of pressing a button and they would ALL be together.
They
could only ALL be together is she knew Maddie was dead as would be
killing the twins (not good) and gerry (justifiable ) and leaving Maddie
an orphan.
What innocent mother or any parent would kill their surviving children if there were any, their partner and themselves?
They wouldn't.
Guilty parents or even acrimonious divorcing parents might and the grounds of if they can't have them no one can.
Or, they could do it because they didn't want their remaining children to suffer parental loss or shame etc, an altruistic reason
This is also a huge red flag as to kate's mental state
and she speaks of willing to commit murder-suicide, not the behavior of
an innocent parent, rather definitely expected of a guilty parent.
Gerry also told us they played no part in Maddie's death!.
Heck even dear old clarrie threw in his penny's worth and told us Maddie was dead.
Gerry also told us if it was an accident why would they cover it up?
Since
they clearly covered it up, by default it was non accidental which then
speaks of premeditation or the result of death during another crime,
I'll let you guess which one.
Kate and gerry have often told us they are grieving.
You grieve for dead people not live people.
Kate told us Maddie visited her at night, this is called haunting.
Live people don't haunt the living, dead people do.
From
the get go, their language and behavior has not been one of innocent
parents calling out to their missing child, it has been of guilty
parents.
Innocent parents call out to their child, reassuring them, telling them they will be found, that they are loved and missed.
The mccanns have never called out to the alleged abductor without prompting and a script.
They have tried in passing and vaguely but only whilst crying about hard done by they are, how much they are suffering from the police investigating them and how Dr. Amaral has said Maddie is dead and it is stopping people from searching and more importantly, handing over their money for cheap tat..
Everything
was and is scripted, even the initial press conference where gerry had
to have a script in order to play the desperate dad and failing
miserably, this soon after Maddie had allegedly been abducted.
They have never physically searched, kate's own words, they were busy doing other things
They have never shown any love or emotion for Maddie, why would they?
She is far beyond anything they can say and do to her.
Maddie
died long before the Thurs night, the mccanns had had time to process
her death and also, with some help no doubt, do an almost forensic clean
up of the apartment.
You see dear kate and gerry, that is where you really messed up.
Police look for what is there that shouldn't be.
They also look for what should be there and isn't.
Now
for the alleged abduction, there should be forensic evidence, when you
go somewhere you take a piece of it with you and, more importantly, you
leave something behind, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Now there would and should
have been fingerprints even if smudged from gloves, hairs, fibers, DNA,
even ear prints,and foot prints (by the way care to explain the woman's
size shoe print in blood in 5a and on the trunk of the hire car?
Then there should have been DNA from Maddie and the twins everywhere.
They
are and were sticky toddlers who touched everything leaving delightful
DNA laden trails of dribble, snot, urine and faeces from diapers, then
there is the DNA that would have been from the clothes Maddie wore that
day, which surprisingly enough you seemingly didn't hand over to
police, you gave them a towel which could have been from anyone.
You wanted the police dogs to search for her as tracker dogs are amazing, well, up until other dogs found something else whereupon they became useless dogs.
Another thing.
When the blood dogs reacted to blood and body fluids, you didn't scream and cry wondering what the abductor had done to your daughter that cause her to bleed?
The expected of innocent parents.
You didn't even scream and cry when the cadaver dog reacted wondering if your daughter was dead at the hands of a paedophile killer/abductor.
Although if he killed her in the house, why take her body thus increasing his chances of being caught?
When they reacted to the hire car you didn't scream and cry out demanding to know why there was such evidence in the car and did it mean the alleged abductor had killed their daughter and taken her away in the very hire car you had just hired?
You didn't demand to know who had hired the car before you.
All the expected language and behavior of innocent parents.
Instead you said you couldn't explain it.
Then a relative (presumably on your behalf) explained it as you kate, had come into contact with 6 corpses in the weeks before the vacation and that why you had cadaverine on the dreadful black and white checked pants.
Although that didn't explain the t shirt and cuddle cat etc.
Then it was said that there was blood from meat, fish and dirty diapers in the car, although. how sea bass came to be behind the sofa and in the wardrobe.
Perhaps it was there the same time as the blue bag which it was said you didn't have, was photographed in situ
Sea bass was the fish to blame, a fish it seems Sean had taken a liking to.
Then
the lack of DNA in hairs in the hair brush which would have been
findable they just took hairs and found the ones that did not come from
the twins or yourselves.
Then the laughable excuse that they all shared 1 toothbrush!
Tut tut, surely you could do better than that?
No, Such was the lack of DNA from Maddie in apartment 5a, gerry had to rush home to get some DNA from rothley towers, allegedly Maddie's pillowcase.
Does
this not tell us something that, despite being in the apartment for the
best part of a week, you could not provide police with anything with
her DNA on, not even her worn clothing or sandals?
After 11 plus years there has not been one atom of
evidence, apart from your say so, that there was ever an abduction of
Maddie from 5a let alone an abductor in the apartment.
There is
however, ample forensic and circumstantial evidence that there was a
corpse in 5a and weirdly enough, a corpse in the car hired several weeks
after Maddie vanished.
There was and is no report of a death ever in 5a nor reports of a corpse, zombie or otherwise in the hire car.
Plus of course your own words spoken in
interviews and the wonderful prosecution exhibit-1, aka the autobiography of kate
with passing mentions of Maddie, who didn't even warrant her name being
capitalized on the front cover even though yours, kate, was.
This shows us your priority and in the book, it was kate, kate, kate.
Oh woe is me, waily waily woe and the infamous story of how you couldn't make love to gerry.
Oh how the twins must have suffered when that hit the newsstands.
The embarrassment.
And then the infamous page 129 in the first editions of the book about Maddie's perfect genitals torn apart.
I am not sure how the twins felt when they read that in the book your writing for them and allegedly Maddie which was supposed to say how you all searched for her until she was finally found alive.
The twins would have been eaten alive at school no matter how much you tried to prevent them finding out anything about the case.
I bet it was fun dropping them off at school, the sniggers and looks from other parents.
What about gerry at work?
There would have been giggles and sniggers, muttered comments some meant to be heard by gerry.
Was he called into the office about it i wonder?
I bet that was a fun day at work, the staff, the patients, visitors.
Front page on the newsstand in the shop.
Oh they joy.
I wonder, did he know you had spoken to the media about your sex life or was it a surprise?
Was he a happy bunny or was it yet another row as you made him a laughing stock.
It is so much fun we like to mention it every so often so it doesn't disappear from the public memory.
This
makes sense if Maddie died on the Sunday as, after that, we have no
reliable independent sighting, even the creche records are laughable and
unbelievable with forged signatures (important, when faking a
signature rule 101 is get the damn name right healy became mccann then
back again.
Then we have you knowing at least one of the nannies beforehand, Handy when it came to the creche records don't you think, oh and the visit later on to rothley towers for a cuppa and a cookie or two.
Then
we have the missed, paid for breakfasts at the millennium to have
breakfast in the apartment, strange given how money grabbing you are.
Then
we have the lunches in the apartment rather than with the whole group
and finally dinner with the adults only, excluding the one who was
missing each night that was babysitting the children in whoever
apartment.
Could it be that you had to skip breakfast and lunch with
the group since someone, Diane Webster would have noticed Maddie not
being in the group with the rest of the children and asking awkward
questions and people would have kinda noticed a missing adult as well as a
missing child and that would be super hard to conceal.
There is however, despite your claims of no evidence, plenty of forensic evidence that there was a body in 5a and the hire car.
The
dogs reactions, the blood and body fluids in the apartment and in the
hire car, the body fluids you claimed did not exist in the Leveson
Inquiry (perjury) yet you had excuses for- blood from meat and fish and
the bad smell, bad enough you had to keep the trunk open every night
blamed on rotting meat and dirty diapers.
The 15/19 markers which matched Maddie was blamed on her clothing and sweaty sandals.
In the UK 15/19 would have had you in court and now in jail.
Portugal it had to be a full match.
It
wasn't that 4 markers did not match, they were too degraded to be
matched, though, with advances in forensics this may now change.
I
bet you got a real shock when the PJ made the files public, well some
of them, they have a whole bunch they kept secret and that's the really
juicy stuff.
You sued to access to the files, you made Maddie a ward
of court to get you access (2 weeks after she 'vanished') and got back
81 files out of what, 11000 released ?
The funny thing is you won, well kind of.
You got back the 81 files that your lawyers had handed over to the police so net gain was a healthy zero.
As
an aside i know of no other case where the innocent parents of a
missing child have made their child a ward of court ever, let alone
after 2 weeks.
This tells me that you knew Maddie was dead.
Maddie was no longer legally your child, you had handed over all responsibility to the courts.
You got rid of her which would also explain why you looked so happy, as if a burden had been lifted from your shoulders.
You bloomed with a healthy glow and an appetite for life.
You
reported sleeping well and felt so good you wore make up, changed
jewelry and coordinated your clothing with gerry, oh, and you were
jogging within days.
Maddie was no longer your problem except,
instead of fading away and you being cleared and moving on, She stayed as a millstone around your neck, always there, just like your guilt, plus, you got to
like the money, the fame, the freebies.
Maddie was a burden in life to you as you have told us.
You thought once she was gone the burden would be lifted.
It wasn't.
However,
11 plus years on Maddie is a burden weighing heavily on your shoulders,
a weight growing each passing day, hour, minute and she will continue
to be until you speak the truth and give her a dignified burial.
You language and behavior are all highly unexpected and red flags.
Innocent people speak and act a specific way.
Guilty people speak and act a specific way.
We know this from decades and centuries of statements.
Both are mutually exclusive.
You both come over as classic guilty people.
It is almost as if you have read how to kill a child 101- a parents guide.
Casey anthony, deborah bradley and jeremy irvin, justin dipietro, shawn adkins and billie jean dunn, jessica mitchell and deorr
kunz Sr, misty cummings, mark redwine (charged), lena lunsford (guilty
of murder LWOP) kristi abrahams (guilty minimum 16 years) and robert
smith (plead guilty max 16 years) elisa baker (15-18 years) karen
matthews (guilty 8 years) here her daughter Shannon was luckily found alive and
well with her uncle albeit having been regularly sedated prior to and
during her alleged abduction.
In each case the parent claimed their child was abducted from their bedroom/home,campsite or crossing the street.
All sounded the same and used the same words.
Some were found guilty or pleaded guilty.
Some had the remains found.
Some, the remains have not been found.
Some had enough evidence such as a lot of blood around the room or other blood evidence in vehicles.
Some had cadaver dogs reacting to certain places.
Some had evidence of other crimes such as child porn and bestiality videos.
Some we know they did the crime such is the actual evidence and circumstantial.
A
few have still not be arrested and charged despite all the evidence
which bemuses more than a few of us, even for the child porn etc they are
still free.
None searched.
None showed concern for their missing child.
None called out to their child or the alleged abductor
Some started gofundme's or other fund raising.
Some the remains were found weeks, months, years down the line.
One couple got caught when they went to the dump site of their missing child/step child to celebrate her birthday.
Other not named here claimed one crime done by stranger when it was themselves who indicated for involvement.
Gerry cited one case regarding the dogs reacting to cadaverine, a man called eugene zapata.
He
claimed the dogs were wrong and gerry used this case to deride the
dogs as unreliable, all well and good until zapata confessed and
admitted the dogs had been right all along.
Cue deathly silence from dear gerry.
Hmm, i wonder why?Perhaps this would explain in part your refusal to answer the question about handing Maddie over to a family member.
Should
Maddie ever be found alive, well aliveish as she would be a zombie
since she is currently dead and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future, you would not get her back, you would have no say in
what happened to her, who got custody of her, it would be for the courts
to decide.
It also meant that when you sued Dr. Amaral on behalf
of the twins , yourselves and Maddie, the courts refused to allow
Maddie to be included, because she was a ward of court and no longer
were you legally responsible for her or anything on her behalf.
So,
i know you did it, pretty much everyone else knows you did it apart
from a handful of die hard supporters who will be mightily pissed when
charges are laid and you confess, well, you can try and come to a plea
deal with the Portuguese courts, they may not be willing to accept given
the crap you have done in the 11 plus years.
Then comes the fun bit.
You
see since you know and knew Maddie was long dead, that makes the fund
fraudulent and the UK police can prosecute you for that.
All those
millions and, even better, the media who you threatened into paying up
would be entitled to sue for it back, plus interest plus legal costs.
Then,
tee hee, the tapas chums would also be facing fraud charges for the
same thing and they too will have to pay it back, plus legal costs plus
interest.
The fun really starts when they sue to get the money they
allegedly donated to the fund, returned so they can then pay it back to
the media.
If you decide they can't have the money, are you will to
risk them deciding to have a nice word in the ears of some very nice
policemen?
You may have a super(inaudible, we know what that means,
Diane Webster slipped up there when she let that little nugget of info
slip out.
Ohh i bet kate had a major tantrum when that came out.
She seems to have anger management issues, quite a lot it seems.
It may stop them
talking to the public, it does not apply to the police and, if they make
it public, that drops you right in it.
What are you hiding? will be the
question and threaten all you like what have they to lose if it means
you are in jail for a very long time in Portugal and then facing trial
in the UK for fraud, obtaining money and services by deception, obstruction of justice, perverting the course of
justice, perjury at the leveson inquiry (which carries a life sentence)
obtaining money and services by deception.
What about the celebs who gave you money and services like a private jet?
They could be entitled to sue you.
Still
it means that gerry loses his job as a lecturer in Leicester uni, where
i have it on good knowledge that his students detest him and kate your
job in medicine which could be anything such as phlebotomist,
receptionist, porter, though i doubt any of those since you aren't in
contact with the public.
We would know, they would talk. It would be guess who i saw today..., so you are out
the back somewhere doing a miserable job with people who loathe you and at a
paltry wage compared to what you could have been earning.
All those years of training down the Swanee, All for nothing.
You will lose the twins of course and your friends and your family (possibly)
Bang
goes the fancy house to pay all your fines and legal fees plus, if they
decide to sue, and there are so many who could, compensation.
Your social life non existent, your circle of friends empty.
Everyone distancing themselves from you though, your relatives and maybe former friends such as the tapas 7 may sell their stories to the press, some big money there.
Those who were at uni with you, we know you had a reputation as a heavy drinker and party girl "hot lips" Bet they could tell us some interesting stories.
What if a relative decides to write a book?
Better still what if your other half writes a book, especially if they get a plea deal and throw you under the bus?
My life with XXX.
Why i covered up for them, why i protected them, How they lied to me, how they used emotional and even physical abuse.
Remember those bruised wrists and upper arm kate?
Those weren't from trashing your room you would have had bruises on your hands and hitting walls would not cause the bruises on your upper arm kate.
You should know that being a doctor, well ex doctor.
Those were restraint bruises so, what were you doing when you had to be restrained?
Fighting with gerry after he was making eyes at the quiz mistress.
Fighting gerry for another reason, after all we know you have a temper?
Being pulled away from Maddie after injuring her accidentally or deliberately?
Being pulled away from her as she was being removed from the apartment?
Restraint for pleasure and/or pain?
Your excuses don't work.
I wonder if the reason for the bruising is in the unreleased police files?
Hey ho it's not important currently but it does have possibilities down the like.
If it was for the latter then nobody cares.If it's between consenting adults then it's legal and worth 5 mins of discussion and titters before moving on, plus you may get strange looks from the public and students and maybe mom and dad might have something to say about it.
It also means that once you leave the Portuguese jail they will try you in the UK and you will have a super fun time courtesy of Her Majesty.
By the way during the Leveson Inquiry, you had to take an oath.
you kate lied after taking said oath.
This is perjury and it may surprise you to know it comes with a life sentence which means once you are released you could be on license which means if you are naughty they can recall you to prison.
.
Currently you are trying to get the verdict against you regarding the legal costs etc against Dr. Amaral overturned in the ECHR.
It
won't work since they do not accept civil cases such as you against Dr.
Amaral, they can only accept cases against the state, in this case
Portugal.
The problem you have is that the Portuguese Supreme Court
referred to the ECHR multiple times in their decision, which also
mentioned that neither you, kate and gerry had been officially cleared
of involvement in the disappearance of Maddie, nor have several senior
UK officers who have said you are not cleared of involvement.
You would still be liable for all the costs of yourselves plus those of the people you sued.
The ECHR cannot and will not change the verdict from the courts, you are still going to have to pay up.
That £500,000 you have in a restricted account will have to be used.
Strange
that by the way, it means the money can only be used to buy tools and
equipment for a business or property and, since you don't have a
business requiring bucket loads of cash you have property so, is it buy
to let or is it a bolt hole in case you have to sell up rothley towers?
I
am also pretty sure the twins aren't going to appreciate being liable
for some not inconsiderable sums of money since you included them in
your failed case.
How about you come clean, you'll feel so much
better, the worst if over, no more hiding and wondering if there will be
the early morning knock on the door.
The twins may forgive you, they may not since you have screwed their minds up for the last 11 plus years.
Get
divorced, get counseling, do your time, keep your nose clean, move to a
country that will admit you if you can find one or move somewhere nice
and quiet in the UK and get on with life.
Maybe in time the public
can forgive you, especially if you come clean, say what happened even if
it was an accident as a result of something else.
Tell us what you
did with her body, it will give the twins completion and a chance to
grieve and move on(plus a bucket load of therapy) if nothing else.
It
is the little things that build up and we have 11 years of leakage and
behavior to tell us what happened, who did it, when. and, if we look
hard enough at your language, possibly even where you dumped Maddie
although gerry preferred the word "dispose"
Words once spoken cannot be unspoken.
Words once seen cannot be unseen.
Your best friend today can be your worst enemy tomorrow.
Can you trust your now distant tapas 7 chums to keep the secret.
If more than one person knows then it is not a secret.
A crime once done cannot be undone and, it will sooner or later be solved.
Sooner or later someone will crack and oldfield looks a likely candidate or maybe tanner
Payne
is keeping his head down after the stories of him liking to bathe other
peoples children came to light and the Gaspar statements which would
link payne and gerry and the dreaded P word.
And in a divorce
things get messy when it comes to custody of the children and, since we
know the marriage was in trouble before the vacation and you have now
been forced together for 11 plus years, one of you will be more than
happy to throw the other one under the bus if it means you get custody
and all the perks that come with it.
Remember reading all those murderers found decades down the line, all the rapists all the paedophiles?
You have told us Maddie is dead in your embedded confessions, the interviews verbal and written and the book.
.
Now is the time to speak out, admit the truth and begin the process of publicly grieving.
If you want to talk i will listen.
There are others who would also listen.
You could have a friend or someone you trust to help you take those first scary steps but it will get easier.
The
hard part is saying you have something to confess, after that it gets
easier and you will feel so much relief, a huge weight lifted off your
shoulders.
We would help you start the process to acceptance, confession, to grieve, to heal.
The
ones you have to worry about are those few rabid supporters who say you
are innocent and, when you reveal the truth of your involvement, they
will be mighty pissed at being made to look foolish and gullible in
public.
Even the media is turning on you, the subtle changing of certain words and inclusion of others such as 'Alleged'
They will not be your friends.
They cannot be trusted.
In the end, they will have their eye on the prize, be it a reward if one remains, 15 minutes of fame, interviews and articles in the press, reality TV here we come, or, the big exclusive story, World wide headlines, promotion, awards, their name forever known as the ones who solved the case.
We don't want that, all we want is the truth and a dignified burial for Maddie if possible.
All I want is the truth, Maddie's remains being found and given a dignified burial if possible.
I want you to get the help you clearly need.
I want you to be able to grieve openly, to begin the process of healing.
I want Sean and Amelie to know the truth, to grieve and heal.
I want them to get all the help they will need to come to terms with the truth their sister is dead by whatever means and to get the counseling to help them become happy and healthy teenagers and adults.
It will all take time, years if not decades.
Maddie will never be forgotten.
She has touched the lives of many, some directly, some indirectly.
We are the family she never knew she needed.
The voice she never knew she needed to speak up for her
Sunday, September 23, 2018
Tuesday, September 4, 2018
The Mccanns, Social Workers And Coming Of Age
Remember when they were visited by social workers?
The mccanns described it as if it were they who invited them over for a chat and a cup of tea rather than the more damning, the social workers visited because they lost one child due to self proclaimed neglect and as a result the social workers visited to see if the children were at risk from neglect in the home.
Something which would have further condemned them in the public eye.
Also, after the social workers visited and did whatever they needed to do, the press stopped showing the faces of the twins, insisting their faces were now concealed such as being pixellated.
Children on the at risk register or are part of a criminal investigation as victims or as perpetrators are banned from having their faces shown and, in some cases banned from any form of identification such as from a relation committing a crime and pictures are shown of said perpetrator and any children in the photo are pixellated or blurred out.
Victims of sex crimes are also not identified especially if victim of a close relative such as a parent where surnames are redacted to prevent identity of the child.
In this case, the mccanns had used the twins as photo opportunities to portray their innocence and new found parenting skills, especially after being told the twins were no longer welcomed at the creche, and now the mccanns had to rely on friends and relatives to babysit whilst they went swanning off around the world.
I do not know what rules the mccanns had to follow after the social workers visit, nor do i know what other sanctions were laid down or how many other visits the social workers made.
The mccanns mentioned one as they suspected or know that one would be made simply because they claimed alleged neglect by leaving their children home alone.
The would not mention any further visits as that would damage their reputation and reduce donations.
No mention is made either of social workers visiting the other tapas 7 members as they too claimed they left their children home alone each night although managing to not lose a child due to alleged paedophile abduction.
Social workers are forbidden from disclosing any information they got from the group as a whole to the general public including media.
Privacy is first and foremost in relation to the privacy of the children.
Yvonne Warren Martin, Social Worker and Child Protection Officer.heard about the alleged abduction of Maddie on the TV and decided to offer her services.when Maddie vanished,
On 4 May 2007, at around 7.00am, she heard about the disappearance of an English girl from Praia da Luz, Lagos, from SKY News or the BBC. Having worked for 25 years in the area of child protection, she felt obliged to offer help to her compatriots and went that very morning to Praia da Luz. At around 9.00am, she met the McCann couple, next to the apartment from where the child had disappeared, accompanied by a third person, a male, who seemed quite familiar to her.
The male turned out to be david payne but she could not remember where she knew him from in relation to her work not knowing if it was as a suspect/arguido or witness.
Yvonne saw a group of three people, the mccanns and an unnamed male.
Yvonne noticed that the couple seemed upset, kate was agitated and crying intensely causing Yvonne to ask When Yvonne noticed that the couple began to have doubts about her capacity and she immediately showed them her official documents and credentials, issued by the British government, to calm them down. gerry took her documents and showed them to the third person and told him that they were authentic and were certified by the police.
At one point Yvonne tried to get kate away so she talk to kate in private, kate became quite aggressive and said they could talk in the street. The mccanns and payne got into a huddle with whispered conversation when a journalist showed up.
He then said the mccanns would not be talking to her or anyone else. He clearly did not like her asking questions of kate and took kate away.
The question i have here is, how did david payne know the documents were authentic and certified by the police?
Had he come into contact with them at some point?
If so what was the reason?
This clearly then was the first time social worker(s) came into contact with the mccanns in what seems an unofficial manner.
The question then becomes this:
Given the mccanns had claimed a paedophile abduction of Maddie when the children were allegedly left home alone (they weren't) whilst mom and dad and the tapas 7 had dinner in the tapas bar whilst allegedly doing half hour checks, and that the parents had then admitted to what would be classed as child neglect with harm coming to a child, were social workers then becoming involved?
In the UK especially given the age of the children, kate and gerry would have been arrested and charged with neglect resulting in harm coming to a child.
This was a risk the mccanns were prepared to take, a fine, community service, maybe even a short time behind bars if they could get a deal.
Far less that serving time for homicide, concealing a corpse and filing a false police report.
They knew also that if charged with neglect (the children were never left home alone, they were babysat by the missing adult from the table each night) They could not then be charged with the more serious crimes of
homicide, concealing a corpse and filing a false police report.
All they had to say was that an adult from the group was babysitting all the children in one room so no neglect.
They walk free knowing they could not be charged in Portugal.
I am not sure if they could still face charges in the UK.
They could then claim Maddie had an accident such as swallowing pills found on a table, the mccanns panicked and disposed of her remains.
Their name and reputation are mud and in tatters but they are out of jail.
At what point did the social workers become officially involved as involved they would be given the self confessed neglect of three very young children and ending up with one missing.
Did it end up with the children never being left alone with kate or gerry thus the need for all the friends and relatives coming out?
They didn't come out to physically search, they were all observed hanging out around the pool and having what could generally be called a freebie spring vacation.
Who decided Maddie would become a ward of court?
I know of no other child abduction case where the missing child is declared a ward of court.
Was it voluntary or was it a case of if you don't we will and you could lose your remaining children?
Was it simply a way of trying to get access to the police files to learn what evidence the police had against them and thus allowing them the option of retrofitting the time lines etc?Now, since Maddie became a ward of court the mccanns are no longer legally responsible for her nor can they make decisions for her or on her behalf, it all has to go to court for permission.
I am not sure if this also limits what information they get since they are no longer her legal carers.
They may now be restricted to getting the same info that we the public get.
They may be allowed to make announcements to the public and appeals after they seek the courts permission.
In effect they may be like us, interested bystanders.
Once the twins reach 18 and become adults, they may decide to speak out for themselves rather than have their parents speak on their behalf.
I suspect that their coming of age may be something kate and gerry, and i suspect kate more than anything dread.
Up till now the twins have been effectively gagged by their parents.
They are restricted on what they can see and hear in the home, probably restricted on what they can see and do on their computers and phones.
I will bet the twins have been active online seeking out info about themselves (everyone does this) their parents, the tapas 7 and Maddie and the case in general.
Searching out info their parents haven't told them.
The mccann may have reason to fear the twins coming of age.
The can no longer restrict what they can see and hear, nor can they stop the twins from talking out in public.
This may be the time that kate told us about in relation to pressing a button and they would ALL be together.
This tells us that kate knows Maddie is dead as this the only way they could all be together, otherwise she has committed murder and suicide leaving Maddie as an orphan.
No innocent parent would ever contemplate committing murder or suicide if their missing child is alive and could be found at any moment.
Kate's own words and behavior tell us the truth.
I wonder what the twins will do?
More importantly, what will kate do?
The mccanns described it as if it were they who invited them over for a chat and a cup of tea rather than the more damning, the social workers visited because they lost one child due to self proclaimed neglect and as a result the social workers visited to see if the children were at risk from neglect in the home.
Something which would have further condemned them in the public eye.
Also, after the social workers visited and did whatever they needed to do, the press stopped showing the faces of the twins, insisting their faces were now concealed such as being pixellated.
Children on the at risk register or are part of a criminal investigation as victims or as perpetrators are banned from having their faces shown and, in some cases banned from any form of identification such as from a relation committing a crime and pictures are shown of said perpetrator and any children in the photo are pixellated or blurred out.
Victims of sex crimes are also not identified especially if victim of a close relative such as a parent where surnames are redacted to prevent identity of the child.
In this case, the mccanns had used the twins as photo opportunities to portray their innocence and new found parenting skills, especially after being told the twins were no longer welcomed at the creche, and now the mccanns had to rely on friends and relatives to babysit whilst they went swanning off around the world.
I do not know what rules the mccanns had to follow after the social workers visit, nor do i know what other sanctions were laid down or how many other visits the social workers made.
The mccanns mentioned one as they suspected or know that one would be made simply because they claimed alleged neglect by leaving their children home alone.
The would not mention any further visits as that would damage their reputation and reduce donations.
No mention is made either of social workers visiting the other tapas 7 members as they too claimed they left their children home alone each night although managing to not lose a child due to alleged paedophile abduction.
Social workers are forbidden from disclosing any information they got from the group as a whole to the general public including media.
Privacy is first and foremost in relation to the privacy of the children.
Yvonne Warren Martin, Social Worker and Child Protection Officer.heard about the alleged abduction of Maddie on the TV and decided to offer her services.when Maddie vanished,
On 4 May 2007, at around 7.00am, she heard about the disappearance of an English girl from Praia da Luz, Lagos, from SKY News or the BBC. Having worked for 25 years in the area of child protection, she felt obliged to offer help to her compatriots and went that very morning to Praia da Luz. At around 9.00am, she met the McCann couple, next to the apartment from where the child had disappeared, accompanied by a third person, a male, who seemed quite familiar to her.
The male turned out to be david payne but she could not remember where she knew him from in relation to her work not knowing if it was as a suspect/arguido or witness.
Yvonne saw a group of three people, the mccanns and an unnamed male.
Yvonne noticed that the couple seemed upset, kate was agitated and crying intensely causing Yvonne to ask When Yvonne noticed that the couple began to have doubts about her capacity and she immediately showed them her official documents and credentials, issued by the British government, to calm them down. gerry took her documents and showed them to the third person and told him that they were authentic and were certified by the police.
At one point Yvonne tried to get kate away so she talk to kate in private, kate became quite aggressive and said they could talk in the street. The mccanns and payne got into a huddle with whispered conversation when a journalist showed up.
He then said the mccanns would not be talking to her or anyone else. He clearly did not like her asking questions of kate and took kate away.
The question i have here is, how did david payne know the documents were authentic and certified by the police?
Had he come into contact with them at some point?
If so what was the reason?
This clearly then was the first time social worker(s) came into contact with the mccanns in what seems an unofficial manner.
The question then becomes this:
Given the mccanns had claimed a paedophile abduction of Maddie when the children were allegedly left home alone (they weren't) whilst mom and dad and the tapas 7 had dinner in the tapas bar whilst allegedly doing half hour checks, and that the parents had then admitted to what would be classed as child neglect with harm coming to a child, were social workers then becoming involved?
In the UK especially given the age of the children, kate and gerry would have been arrested and charged with neglect resulting in harm coming to a child.
This was a risk the mccanns were prepared to take, a fine, community service, maybe even a short time behind bars if they could get a deal.
Far less that serving time for homicide, concealing a corpse and filing a false police report.
They knew also that if charged with neglect (the children were never left home alone, they were babysat by the missing adult from the table each night) They could not then be charged with the more serious crimes of
homicide, concealing a corpse and filing a false police report.
All they had to say was that an adult from the group was babysitting all the children in one room so no neglect.
They walk free knowing they could not be charged in Portugal.
I am not sure if they could still face charges in the UK.
They could then claim Maddie had an accident such as swallowing pills found on a table, the mccanns panicked and disposed of her remains.
Their name and reputation are mud and in tatters but they are out of jail.
At what point did the social workers become officially involved as involved they would be given the self confessed neglect of three very young children and ending up with one missing.
Did it end up with the children never being left alone with kate or gerry thus the need for all the friends and relatives coming out?
They didn't come out to physically search, they were all observed hanging out around the pool and having what could generally be called a freebie spring vacation.
Who decided Maddie would become a ward of court?
I know of no other child abduction case where the missing child is declared a ward of court.
Was it voluntary or was it a case of if you don't we will and you could lose your remaining children?
Was it simply a way of trying to get access to the police files to learn what evidence the police had against them and thus allowing them the option of retrofitting the time lines etc?Now, since Maddie became a ward of court the mccanns are no longer legally responsible for her nor can they make decisions for her or on her behalf, it all has to go to court for permission.
I am not sure if this also limits what information they get since they are no longer her legal carers.
They may now be restricted to getting the same info that we the public get.
They may be allowed to make announcements to the public and appeals after they seek the courts permission.
In effect they may be like us, interested bystanders.
Once the twins reach 18 and become adults, they may decide to speak out for themselves rather than have their parents speak on their behalf.
I suspect that their coming of age may be something kate and gerry, and i suspect kate more than anything dread.
Up till now the twins have been effectively gagged by their parents.
They are restricted on what they can see and hear in the home, probably restricted on what they can see and do on their computers and phones.
I will bet the twins have been active online seeking out info about themselves (everyone does this) their parents, the tapas 7 and Maddie and the case in general.
Searching out info their parents haven't told them.
The mccann may have reason to fear the twins coming of age.
The can no longer restrict what they can see and hear, nor can they stop the twins from talking out in public.
This may be the time that kate told us about in relation to pressing a button and they would ALL be together.
This tells us that kate knows Maddie is dead as this the only way they could all be together, otherwise she has committed murder and suicide leaving Maddie as an orphan.
No innocent parent would ever contemplate committing murder or suicide if their missing child is alive and could be found at any moment.
Kate's own words and behavior tell us the truth.
I wonder what the twins will do?
More importantly, what will kate do?
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