Was kate Leaking Information To Help Maddie's Remains Be Found?

I wonder if kate was the one leaking info via 3rd parties in order for Maddie's remains to be found and allowing her to thus be able to grieve publicly with Maddie's death laid firmly at the feet of the alleged paedophile abductor.
Presumably there would be injuries found which would point firmly to a paedophile otherwise why not just blame stranger abduction or abduction to be cared for by a childless family as one thesis purported.

The alleged paedophile would be blamed even if never found, whilst the blame for the real perpetrator or perpetrators would never be assigned to the mccanns or tapas 7.

They had to make the claim to cover their tracks and any incriminating evidence found.
The delay before other explanations came out such as the sedation would be blamed on the abductor keeping Maddie alive for a length of time before she died or was killed.
This is why initially they claimed no sedation nor did they have the twins tested that night since, long term sedation signs as revealed in the hair could not be blamed on an abductor, but 3 months odd down the line they came out with the maybe the abductor did sedate the twins, knowing that pretty much any evidence in their hair had been cut out and anything in their blood was long gone.

Had Maddie been found after a few months which would fit in with kate's vision, her dreams etc then the abductor takes the fall and the mccanns and chums are scot free.

The problem they have is that if Maddie was cremated along with the old lady who was laying in the church, there is no way they can blame anything found on any abductor, there is no body to reveal anything that could clear the mccanns.

Finding a body in whatever condition could be explained away although for some things they may have a problem or two, especially if evidence is found on or in the body or in and around the immediate area such as hairs or fibers, perhaps linking the body to the hire car or maybe the missing blue bag that gerry didn't have or the disappearing pink blanket. Both would point the finger of guilt at the mccanns and chums.

Kate wants it over as the guilt is eating her alive, the stress of the guilt is so strong she told us she was willing to commit murder suicide to escape it all.
Gerry being the great I am wants to maintain the charade.
He sees the money and fame (infamy) He believes he is smarter than everyone, even to the extent that he leaks clues believing the Plod are too dumb to see them or understand what they are seeing and hearing.

Kate wants it over and he doesn't.

At one point they both wanted the same thing, especially as money was pouring in and they were in financial difficulties long before the vacation.

Now, as time has passed she is getting tired.

Perhaps they both thought a few months of suspicion , a few interviews, they get cleared and they are free and easy.

Instead, despite all their claims and even law suits, they have been publicly revealed as having not been cleared of involvement.

They are now resorting to the ECHR where they are giving the impression to the media and their few remaining supporters that it will be them against Dr. Amaral when it is not so.

The ECHR cannot and will not get involved in lawsuits or civil cases, nor will it cancel verdicts or judgements enacted by the courts right up to Supreme Court.

Those verdicts will stand and the mccanns and the twins are liable for all court costs for themselves and of those they sued.

This could runs into tens if not hundreds of thousands of pounds.

Carter-Ruck are not cheap and i can't see how or why they would do pro bono work in what amounts to a homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false police report as based on the PJ files and in Dr. Amaral's book.

The mccanns can only make a claim against the state of Portugal claiming their human rights have been harmed.
Given that the PJ bent over backwards in accommodating the mccanns and chums even to allowing them to leg it back to the UK post haste in the case of the mccanns and not demanding they be extradited back or having them and the tapas 7 arrested and a warrant  issued forcing all 9 back to Portugal to take part in a reconstruction or answering questions under arguido status, where they are allowed to lie and refuse to answer questions, when under a non arguido status, as witnesses, they are not allowed to lie or refuse to answer questions under penalty of a couple of years in jail.

Had they come clean the 11+ years ago they would now be likely out of prison.

Granted they would have lost their jobs and their children, possibly living with family members or maybe not given that some of them given their statements and distancing may have other issues making them unsuitable, their home and friends.

They would be free with what ever terms the courts laid down regarding probation or on license, then again they would then be facing charges over the fund if it had even be started or at least a small proportion of what it reached.

They could start over, in work of lower pay and of lesser skill since no one really wants to employ a child killer/child molester or a job where they are restricted contact with children or vulnerable adults.

They would have to sell the house to pay their legal fees of course so back to living in a private rent or council house.

Free yet in a prison of their own making.

Kate would get the help and therapy she clearly needs.

Instead 11+ years down the line, they are in the same situation now as they were when they first started the alleged abduction story, still suspects in Portugal in homicide, concealing a corpse and filing a false police report.

On top of that they are likely facing serious fraud charges relating to the fund, instead of things getting easier as they perhaps planned, things have gotten harder.

She is no longer a GP, something she spent a lot of years working hard to get and d now working in medicine but doesn't say what as, and no one has says they have come across her in their role as patient which points to a back room job.

He is no longer a heart consultant, he was trapped in a dead end job with no prospect of promotion and consigned to the back room reading scans with minimal involvement with patients, hated by the staff he worked alongside and now jumped before he was pushed?

Now a professor  in Leicester Uni  hated by the students he teaches, disliked by other staff members basically tolerated at best.

Also, he may be on a fixed term contract and also a probationary period before being made permanent usually 3 years.

From Lecturer level most university positions are permanent. There is normally a probation period of three years for all permanent positions, after which the position is permanent but not tenured. This means that you are not secured promotion and also that you can loose your position if the department shuts down or funding runs out (although the loss of position due to redundancy is fairly rare).

https://www.eui.eu/ProgrammesAndFellowships/AcademicCareersObservatory/AcademicCareersbyCountry/UnitedKingdom#RequirementsforPositions

If he is on probation it will be interesting to see if he is made permanent given he has not been cleared by the Portuguese police of involvement in the homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false police report as well as creating a fraudulent fund and other benefits gained through fraud.

If, for example, he is on probation and they decide because of Maddie not to make him permanent, what would his options be?
Fixed term contract at the same uni?
Fixed term contract at another uni?
Try to get work in another UK hospital?
Try and get work at another uni abroad?
Try and get work in a hospital abroad?
Working behind the scenes in medicine a la kate?
Shelf stacking in Tesco?

Time will tell

Tick Tock kate and gerry, Tick Tock

A flurry Of Old News. What Are They Trying To Hide?

Re: Kate and Gerry McCann lose High court battle over cancellation of Leveson.....

Wiill the Mccanns have to pay legal fees?

Oh, I do hope so.

I suspect in this case if either options were offered though, they would have gone for no win no fee given the complexity of the case and the costs and if it was offered or even pro bono.

At least I would hope so.
Would the mccanns really risk the fund as it stands now on yet another legal court case?
Would the board, stuffed with their carefully selected  members let them since the fund was set up to find Maddie and support the family as one of it's other rules

I wonder if carter-ruck were involved?
If so would it be pro bono as kate has alleged or a nominal fee or even full fee?
Since there were 4 plaintiffs (5 if the mccanns were counted separately) would the costs be split 4/5 ways?

I cackled when i heard them complaining about media intrusion when the mccanns had been happily using the same media to get their version of events spread throughout the world, the very same media who helped them with the mockumentary, the same media who promoted kate's book.
The very same media who the fragrant, saintly duo paid £500,000 over the course of a year to keep them on the front pages.

£500,000 which should have been spent on finding Maddie, well, not exactly finding Maddie since they knew where they had dumped her remains, but giving the impression they did and cared for her.

No matter how they did it, however dignified with prayers and whatever, perhaps an apology for what they did to her in order to salve their conscience claiming inwardly or even outwardly that Maddie would forgive them, she would not blame or hold them accountable.
She would want the twins to lead a happy and well loved life believing their big sister had been abducted and was being loved and cared for by her abductor.

The mccanns would and did convince themselves they had been forgiven by Maddie, they had to in order to assuage the guilt, kate a great deal and gerry not so much.
This was revealed when kate spoke of murder suicide so they could all be together.

Kate said, "It really isn't easy," coping. "Some days are better than others. ... There's days when you think, 'I can't do this anymore,' and you just want to press a button, and we're all gone, and it's all finished, and we're all together and gone. Wherever. But you can't, you know. Just occasionally you'll have a -- if you're having a really bad day, which we do. And you can't help but think that." CTN interview, Informe Especial - Late August
Mom: Madeleine Had "Sense Of Danger" CBS News

This was at her most vulnerable, most fragile at her darkest moment.
I think if she had been interviewed at this point without gerry controlling her every move with hand signals, she would have cracked and the truth would have poured out.

An opportunity missed.

It is likely she was medication at that point and may even be on something today to keep her together.
She may even be visiting a counselor or having therapy.
She looks rough, I mean really rough.

I think they only thing that has kept her going to date is her intense and implacable loathing of Dr. Amaral.

Personally I think all the court cases against the ex lead detective are pushed by kate, a woman scorned.
She and by default gerry have spent a minimum of tens of thousands and heading towards hundreds of thousands, trying to silence him, to break him so he feels worse than kate.
It will never happen.
He has right on his side, he has justice on his side and he has Maddie's voice on his side
A woman in the depths of a hell of her own making, there is nothing she can say or do to make her nemesis Dr. Amaral feel bad, feel shame or feel guilt.
Kate spoke of being visited by Maddie.
She didn't tell us what if anything Maddie said.
She told us nothing of what she felt.
She told us nothing of what she said to the shade of Maddie, her ghost.
Living people do not visit loved ones as a ghost, only the dead have that ability.
Right there, once again kate told us Maddie was dead.

Maddie ghost visits mum Daily Star (Express Group have removed all online links)
19 October 2007
Tormented Kate McCann told last night how she is visited in the night by the spirit of her missing daughter Madeleine.
The anguished GP says she is regularly woken up by visions of the four-year-old in her bedroom. Kate, 39, revealed the visions to her mum, Susan Healy, who was worried about her daughter’s lack of sleep
Susan had assumed Kate and husband Gerry were being kept awake by her two-year old twins, Sean and Amelie. She was stunned when Kate revealed it was missing Madeleine who was haunting her.
Susan, said: "She told me she has difficulty sleeping and wakes during the night. I asked: 'Do the twins come and wake you up?'
Kate said: "No, it's Madeleine. She comes in.'"


Kate and gerry have used the media for their own ends, not to find Maddie, not to repeat or promote the reward amounts, not to call out to the alleged abductor, they have used the media for their own selfish needs, to paint them as loving, caring albeit distraught parents.
To advertise the fund, to advertise kate's book, to advertise kate as an ambassador for charities, with only one taking the bait.
They used the media to hijack charity runs and races, flaunting Maddie in front of runs for other charities.
They used the media to hijack a charity cycle ride for missing people when both they and we know Maddie was never a missing person apart from the say so of her parents and then used the media to tell the world that

“I know this won’t help Madeline but I’d hate to think that any other child would have to go through this and their family would have to go through what we’ve been through."

Once again telling Maddie was dead and beyond any help.

They just can't help themselves.

When the media write nice things about them, supports their version of events, lauds them, praising their strength they are all over the media, almost as if the media was some great lolling puppy getting pats on the head for being a good dog.which is surprising given their dislike of dogs.

If the media start getting above themselves, perhaps allowing anti mccann comments to remain on a page or even allowing comments at all or, heaven's forbid, a story that suggests Maddie was not abducted, then come the phone calls and interesting letters and emails, their supporters wake up and start with the comments and vitriol on websites and forums.
They could not keep up the pace for 11 years and now the circle is complete and they are releasing and rehashing old news stories dressed up as new, splashed across front pages why?

What could prompt such a flurry?

I know when the trolls get kicked and woken up, when stories come out treated as new lines of investigation or breaking news.

When their sullen grotesque faces are splashed across the front page with sometimes 2 page spreads and old discredited stories are waved around as new, something is coming out or soon to be that will put the mccanns in the bad light they deserve.

What could it be that would prompt such a flurry i ask myself?

Could it have been perhaps that the fragrant duo had lost their Leveson Inquiry stage 2 case?

Would that have been enough?

Perhaps then this could be a diversionary tactic to some other news perhaps?

The mccanns have persecuted Dr. Amaral through the various Portuguese courts, winning initially which led to them and their supporters crowing in almost orgasmic delight, only to have a bucket of ice cold water thrown over them with loss after loss all the way to the Supreme court.

It was then announced with almost royal fanfare that they would be going to the ECHR to stop them having to pay costs and legals fees for Dr.Amaral and those others they sued.
We were told repeatedly they were suing Dr. Amaral and taking him personally to the ECHR.
Except they weren't

The ECHR does not get involved in civil suits between people, nor does it cancel or overturn the verdicts of the Supreme Court.


All the mccanns can do is take their case and sue the Portuguese state.

Since the Portuguese Supreme Court cited the ECHR in its final verdicts explaining their ruling.

Various members have been keeping an eye on the listings of what cases are listed and so far, no mccann V Portugal.
Most of the submissions sent to the ECHR fail at the first hurdle as their case is not relevant or applicable and put straight in the bin for recycling.

This is their final final throw of the dice and it isn't even against Dr. Amaral however much they demanded it or implied it.
Kate would have been raging knowing no matter what she said or did or claimed.
She could not break him, she could not even get him angry.
He stayed calm, tight lipped and when he did respond, he was polite, exceedingly so, compared to kate calling police officers "fucking tossers" repeatedly.

This is a tactic I use repeatedly myself.

The more the other person rants and raves, I stay calm and polite, exceedingly so and then repeat what I was saying.
It makes them madder than hell and they sign out or stomp off and you know what?
It is amazing how much a raging person leaks when faced with a wall of calmness, politeness and then my favorite thing which is virtually guaranteed to send them ballistic is to say, have a great day and if applicable a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year or whatever.
When said person returns after calming down and them realizing i won't bite, helpful discourse follows and whatever the issue was it gets sorted to everyone's satisfaction.

Job done.

We know kate has a vicious temper from reading her words, seeing those oh so interesting bruises on her wrists and upper arms shaped just like fingerprints and explained away as her smashing stuff and beating walls and railings, although how beating walls with fists results in upper arm bruising or bruises on her wrists rather than on her hands where they would be expected would be an interesting story..
The best way to deal with kate is to stay polite, correctly address her, stay calm repeat a question till she responds in whichever way she chooses even if it is silence.
She wants to provoke a response, perhaps even a physical one judging by the bruises, possible restraint bruises, restraining from whom?
Restraining why?

It is so predictable, the flurry of non stories, non sightings or comparison with another missing child or person.
A child went missing for 5 minutes 20 years ago in Spain and the media claims it is a Spanish Maddie.
Every time a child goes missing the media (often with the help of a  source close to the family) claim it is a a (insert country/state here) comparison to Maddie.
Should a missing child be found however long it is after they went missing, we get the media (often with the help of a  source close to the family) claim it is a  cause for good hope and proof that Maddie could still be found alive yadda, yadda, yadda.

Age is immaterial as is the outcome, they can't be cuter, more photogenic than Maddie, it is another bandwagon for the mccanns and clarrie to jump on.

Millions spent in the UK allegedly investigating a crime that did not exist in Portugal as if it did exist in the UK.

Millions spent one a little girl who died in Portugal when a pittance is spent on other missing children who are known to be alive, those abducted by the non custodial parent or a relative.
Money which could have been spent solving crimes which did take place in the UK.
Why has so much been spent on a non existent crime with no one iota of evidence to indicate a possible abduction had taken place apart from the words of her parents who should have been considered prime suspects and the tapas 7?
Why so much money spent searching for an non existent abductor and a live Maddie when there is ample physical evidence that Maddie died in that apartment early that week of the vacation?
Why so much money spent when the prime suspects and their chums have not been questioned under oath (good luck with that if they tried to haul them in)?

Why so much money spent when the parents of Maddie, kate and gerry mccann have told us on numerous occasions that Maddie is dead?

Who or what is delaying this case?

If they arrested the mccanns and chums all at the exact same time, took them all to different police stations, read them their rights and initially got them all to write down information about themselves birth date, education, family whatever they wanted to whatever depth.

Confiscate their cell phones so that they cannot communicate with any other member of the tapas group or the mccanns.
Answer any questions you can, keeping chit chat light and non sensitive

This prevents them comparing notes or refreshing memories that may not have been their own.

Then get them to write down everything they did yesterday from the moment they woke up to the moment they fell asleep..

Then do the same for a day last week, a day one month ago, one year ago.

All getting them used to writing and with nothing sensitive to the case.

It lets you see what their norm is, how they pace themselves, use of pronouns, slang, local dialect.

How they refer to others, social introductions.

I would ask them to remember any holiday they ever had and that was their favorite and to write down what they did each day from the moment they woke up till they fell asleep as best as they remember.

In all cases each new day starts on a new page.

In no case is Maddie or the mccanns to be introduced, it lets the subject relax, there is no pressure on what to include or say.

Any corrections are to have a single line crossed through so we can still see what was written and then to be initialed so both the subject and us know it was the subject who crossed it out and initialed it.

If the subject refuses to cooperate on these non relevant requests that is their choice, they must still remain incommunicado.

Once we have familiarized ourselves as to their writing style and internal dictionary we can then ask them to write down everything they did on that vacation from the moment they woke up to catch the plane from their house or the hotel to the moment they flew home whichever day that was.

Each day to start on a new sheet of paper, same as before a single line drawn through whatever needed crossing out and initialed.

Once done then all interviewing to start at the same time so answers for the same questions can be compared regarding timelines, who did what where etc and it also allows
for new questions to be asked after an interesting answer.

The information they wrote down regarding each day of the holiday will prompt questions such as one saying (named person) did this at that time on such and such a day and then the named person makes no mention of it.

It would allow a timeline of sorts between couples and the other members of the group,

Child care being important what prompt questions as to who did what and when.

As the time line builds up we would be able to see where there are gaps, some expected and some unexpected.

Some gaps would be verified by other members, tennis matches sailing etc and some gaps would be left unexplained.

Things such as changes to dining patterns especially since some meals were included in the price.

If ABC and DEF came to breakfast for the first 2 days and then decided to eat at their apartment the rest of the week.

If ABC and DEF + ghi, jkl and mno all had breakfast the Sunday Morning and Monday morning as it was included in the price and then they decided to eat breakfast in their apartment.

Lunch was agreed to be eaten in one of the apartments, whoever had the biggest and everyone children and all all ate together whilst ABC and DEF + ghi, jkl and mno ate lunch in their own apartment and then the various adults fed the children such as high tea and later maybe a some snacks and milk or whatever and the adults would then join the rest of the group in the tapas bar with the alleged half hourly checks on the various children.

As all these are written down, a timeline of sorts will appear, there will be gaps due to passage of time.

There will be blocks where someone will appear to be in two places at the same time these too are expected due to the passage of time but there will be spaces affecting most if not all of the subjects, it may be just one singular space, a small period of time, a minute or so up to a few hours possibly even a whole day where everyone will write a lazy day at wherever or they did this or that.

There will be little hot spots as due to the passage of time they may have forgotten exact times but remember doing a specific thing or have forgotten something they remembered clearly as it was important.

There will be a time, an hour or a few hours perhaps a day, where all the statements they wrote out clearly previously will become vague.

Compared to the previous day and the day after, their memories will be blurred.

Instead of a clear written day there will be a foggy written day with no willingness to be pinned down to a specific hour, location or activity.

It would be interesting to compare say Saturday and Sunday or Saturday and Monday, leading us to seek to learn what happened on the Sunday or, Comparing Saturday Sunday and Monday to Tuesday and then Wednesday and Thursday.

For all subjects to write almost by minute what they did on the Thursday from the moment they woke up to the moment Kate said Maddie was gone.

Where they went, at what time, with whom, what they did and during their dinner and once the alarm had been sounded

Once timelines have been pinned down then the fun begins

Once one cracks they all will in the race to save their own skins